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Origin Stories in the Marvel Universe, Moving Forward

Since we all seem to be covering a few comic book themed posts this week, I figured I’d jump in with some thoughts on how I think they handled two new characters in Civil War, and what I think that means for the MCU moving forward. I’m going to do my best to keep this vague and try not to spoil anything too much, just in case you haven’t had a chance to see the movie yet.

We know, just from the trailers, that Captain America: Civil War has the honor of introducing two much anticipated characters to the Marvel Cinematic Universe: Black Panther and Spider-Man. The latter of the two has been the most talked about, considering the negotiations that had to take place for Disney to take over the character of Spider-Man from Sony. After trying to start two separate franchises based on Spider-Man and not succeeding, a lot of people, myself included, were excited to see what was going to be done with the character by the MCU. Black Panther is not as well-known by the general public (audiences who go to see the Marvel movies without reading the comics), and so his introduction to the MCU is, in a way, starting from scratch.

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Captain America: Civil War. Now that’s how you make a movie.

We got to the theater yesterday to see Captain America: Civil War, the newest film in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Holly recommended I write a review… but then we also saw that a lot of other reviews have already been hitting. Have a few links!

Pretty sure there’s more where those came from… I feel surely I have something to add to the conversation, but I’m also still digesting the movie. I also want to avoid spoilers, since the movie is so newly out… although it’s been out overseas, and made so much money over the weekend you all may have seen it once already.

One thing I can do is refer back to previous posts. Like how I predicted that Civil War would be Captain America 3 because of their comics trajectory after Winter Soldier. Or the whole host of stories that came before the Civil War comics and which make it seem derivative. Or polls like Spider-Man or Team Iron Man versus Team Captain America.

But there’s a main post I want to reflect back on: my reactions to a review about Age of Ultron and how it was killing/not killing the “popcorn movie.”

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Which side will Spider-Man end up on in Civil War?

Happy Tax Day in the US! I figure that makes it a good day to talk about somebody with money problems, right?

From https://www.facebook.com/thegeekstrikesback/ Also, the "We have money" page is from Hickman's Avengers!

From https://www.facebook.com/thegeekstrikesback/
Also, the “We have money” page is from Hickman’s Avengers!

Spider-Man! On one hand, it’s exciting that Marvel worked out a deal with Sony to be able to include him in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. On the other hand, there are so many characters already in Captain America: Civil War that I don’t know that too many people’s opinions went from “not-seeing” to “seeing” this movie just because of Spider-Man…

However, in terms of the comic storyline of Civil War, having Spider-Man appear gives them a lot of storytelling ground to walk. In the comics, Spider-Man switched sides and it made some sense… will they pull off the same thing in the movie? Let’s talk that through, and then end in a prediction poll!

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Batman isn’t getting an origin story… and I’m okay with that.

We’re coming up on Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice. It’s a couple of things. One, it’s a sequel to Man of Steel, so it is by definition a Superman movie. Kind of like Civil War is going to be a Captain America movie… that is to say, maybe this main character will get a bit more screen time. Of course, the plot is based on a Batman comic, so we’ll see how that turns out…

The other thing that this movie is, meanwhile, is the beginning of a multi-movie franchise, with the Justice League at the center. To compare this to Marvel (the company they are and are not cheating off of to do this…), that makes this movie Iron Man 2. Maybe a painful comparison, but there it is. So the Dawn of Justice part ends up equating to the Avengers Initiative – an Initiative that never actually gets off the ground. However, that did not stop The Avengers from being an absolutely outstanding movie that made some of the most money. Ever. So you can see why one of the closest analogs in all of fiction  – the Justice League and the Avengers – might want to copy that winning formula…

So then we have this: the movie release schedule for DC for the next five years. All spinning off of only one movie at first, Man of Steel, the Iron Man of their films. But then, we’re getting a villains movie right off the bat in Suicide Squad – before we get all the hero movies – and then we’re getting a Justice League movie before there are stand-alones, other than Wonder Woman. That would be the same Wonder Woman that we know is being introduced in this film…

It’s backwards of the Marvel model, with the first movies for the heroes coming after the combined movie. The odds of those films being origin stories (or origin-story-like) seem really high to me. But either way, do you see what’s missing?

No stand-alone Batman movie.

Which means he’s definitely not getting an origin story. And you know what I have to say? Thank goodness. He doesn’t need one. People know. Honestly, we probably didn’t need much of Man of Steel either. People know Superman. It’s when we get down to, say, Shazam, that an origin story might be nice. Or Flash and Green Lantern – to differentiate them from other versions.

But Batman? He’s busy being Batman. We know how that goes. Doesn’t need a movie – and so there isn’t one in the works. And I appreciate that and I’m okay with that. How about you? Let me know what you think in the comments below!

Team Cap or Team Stark? #CivilWar!

It’s here! The Civil War trailer to end all Civil War trailers. Well, maybe the earlier ones were better, but the Internet exploded about the end of this one… we’ve shared some of our favorites over on our Facebook page.

Also there’s this:

Why are some of those characters on the sides they’re on? I guess we’re going to have to wait and find out! Which means they’re going to have to explain it in the movie… but Hawkeye vs. Black Widow! Scarlet Witch vs. Vision! How? Why?

I think it’s time. We see the teams… what team are you?