Welcome to the Comparative Opinions podcast! This week hosts Holly and David, and guest host Julia, have a spoiler-heavy conversation about Batman vs. Superman: Dawn of Justice, and the budding DC Cinematic Universe that the studio hopes it ushers in. Verdict: probably worth the $2 to rent.
This weekend’s podcast is about Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice, so it seemed appropriate to share Julia’s original review from seeing the movie in theaters. For more in-depth discussion of the movie – read, us tearing it apart – listen to Episode 6 of the Comparative Opinions podcast!
Guys, it’s not as bad as everyone says. However, I have a few contributing factors to why I might think that:
I haven’t seen Man of Steel, so I have no comparison to that movie.
I love Zack Snyder, and his partnership with Hans Zimmer made me really excited for the movie. Definitely worth it.
I’m Team Wonder Woman. I wanted to see a female superhero in DC who was a total badass. The whole Batman and Superman thing was a bit secondary to me.
I had very, very low expectations of the movie. Honestly, I was hoping it was at least a 5/10. Low expectations helped.
I’m currently on vacation back home and saw this at an Alamo Drafthouse, drinking beer after a couple of margaritas. Alcohol definitely helped.
Instead of doing a huge analytical review, I’m going to focus on a few points that stood out to me. There’s enough reviews out there tearing this movie apart or trying to defend it. This review is coming from someone with a film degree who isn’t a huge Superman fan, had low expectations of the film, and was mildly… okay, definitely, buzzed the whole movie.
Holly and I have had some difficulties getting to movies. It’s the Geek Baby, lining up a babysitter, the limited movie showtimes in town (only ever one screen showing a movie), and then life. I’ve been working Saturdays. And this weekend is Easter, so it’s busy above the usual.
All of which is to say that, while they were trying to find a time with no competition to release Batman v. Superman, they have also found a time that is really hard for us to make it. If we do see it, it will either be separately from each other (but hopefully with friends), or else in several weeks’ time. That’s just where we’re at.
And then we’re seeing some of the initial reviews are questionable. But it’s a comic book movie, which can get odd reviews from “official” critics. It’s Zack Snyder, whose style turns some people off. It’s a sequel to a hotly contested movie. It’s the start of a larger multi-movie multi-title franchise. It’s DC’s Iron Man 2. All of which is to say… should we even bother?
So I have a few request of you, dear readers.
If you write a review or read a good one, feel free to drop a link in the comments below. We might not read it for a while, but it can help make up for us not writing one for a while, right?
If you’re looking for a review, check out any that folks drop in the comments below!
If you see the movie, give us your feedback: worth running to the theater to see? Finding the time (for a 2 and a half hour movie) and a babysitter worth it? We’d like that word of mouth!
We’re coming up on Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice. It’s a couple of things. One, it’s a sequel to Man of Steel, so it is by definition a Superman movie. Kind of like Civil War is going to be a Captain America movie… that is to say, maybe this main character will get a bit more screen time. Of course, the plot is based on a Batmancomic, so we’ll see how that turns out…
The other thing that this movie is, meanwhile, is the beginning of a multi-movie franchise, with the Justice League at the center. To compare this to Marvel (the company they are and are not cheating off of to do this…), that makes this movie Iron Man 2. Maybe a painful comparison, but there it is. So the Dawn of Justice part ends up equating to the Avengers Initiative – an Initiative that never actually gets off the ground. However, that did not stop The Avengers from being an absolutely outstanding movie that made some of the most money. Ever. So you can see why one of the closest analogs in all of fiction – the Justice League and the Avengers – might want to copy that winning formula…
So then we have this: the movie release schedule for DC for the next five years. All spinning off of only one movie at first, Man of Steel, the Iron Man of their films. But then, we’re getting a villains movie right off the bat in Suicide Squad – before we get all the hero movies – and then we’re getting a Justice League movie before there are stand-alones, other than Wonder Woman. That would be the same Wonder Woman that we know is being introduced in this film…
It’s backwards of the Marvel model, with the first movies for the heroes coming after the combined movie. The odds of those films being origin stories (or origin-story-like) seem really high to me. But either way, do you see what’s missing?
No stand-aloneBatman movie.
Which means he’s definitely not getting an origin story. And you know what I have to say? Thank goodness. He doesn’t need one. People know. Honestly, we probably didn’t need much of Man of Steel either. People know Superman. It’s when we get down to, say, Shazam, that an origin story might be nice. Or Flash and Green Lantern – to differentiate them from other versions.
But Batman? He’s busy being Batman. We know how that goes. Doesn’t need a movie – and so there isn’t one in the works. And I appreciate that and I’m okay with that. How about you? Let me know what you think in the comments below!